WEINER, EVAN
Of course, of course, I see your getting ready.
Saturday, March 17, 2012 2:02 PM
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Gould, James R. [goul6457@stthomas.edu]
Saturday, March 17, 2012 1:38 PM
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C: is Ed a Republican?
and does he have a chance?
As chief I will require all maintenance of any aircraft which flies over US airspace be performed by US citizens and in the US. Foreign airlines - take it or leave it.
That should either destroy the aviation industry or create 40,000 mechanic jobs, I have not done a proper evaluation yet.
Jim
Man you guys are chatty. I'll catch up now:
A. I added Fritz to the list.
B. You missed Oliver Campeau, Latin.
C. Jim G; Ed Spencer runs for President, wins and appoints you FAA chief. Problem solved.
D. Drew 325 in the draft, don't remember what happened after that.
E. After 30 years in Detroit , I only listen to SoulTown on Sirrius.
F. I was at the ELP concert and Craw was dancing too!
G. I never forgave Walser for faking sick and forcing me to be Bob Crachit on one nights notice in the Christmas Carol play. Get off my bus Bobby!
H. Settle on a favored date, and Fritz and I will try to make it.
Evan
and does he have a chance?
As chief I will require all maintenance of any aircraft which flies over US airspace be performed by US citizens and in the US. Foreign airlines - take it or leave it.
That should either destroy the aviation industry or create 40,000 mechanic jobs, I have not done a proper evaluation yet.
Jim
Man you guys are chatty. I'll catch up now:
A. I added Fritz to the list.
B. You missed Oliver Campeau, Latin.
C. Jim G; Ed Spencer runs for President, wins and appoints you FAA chief. Problem solved.
D. Drew 325 in the draft, don't remember what happened after that.
E. After 30 years in Detroit , I only listen to SoulTown on Sirrius.
F. I was at the ELP concert and Craw was dancing too!
G. I never forgave Walser for faking sick and forcing me to be Bob Crachit on one nights notice in the Christmas Carol play. Get off my bus Bobby!
H. Settle on a favored date, and Fritz and I will try to make it.
Evan
WEINER, EVAN [EWEINER@edwclevy.net]
Saturday, March 17, 2012 1:06 PM
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Full disclosure:
Yes, I too, ran up on stage. Shook hands with Overend Watts,
Mott The Hoople’s bass player and ran off again.
Charlie White [charlie@bluemoonpackaging.com]
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In the category of TMI…
Bruce Archibald is still teaching at THE BLAKE SCHOOLS. My
niece Olivia Priedeman (a freshman at TBS )said, “he’s really old”.
Bob Teslow is still there.
And starting next year THE BLAKE SCHOOLS is going to have a
female head of schools!
Bowz is Goullauds’ brother in law……
Jim Crawford [jim@waldorfcrawford.com]
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Oh what a lucky man you were!
Friday, March 16, 2012 2:18 AM
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“Open the pod bay doors Hal.”
“I can’t do that Dave”
Now Playing: Transformers –Lou Reed
Craw
John D Curtin
Don Gerhing built the computer from parts from a dumpster
outside Honeywell. Christopher ? was a year ahead of us at Blake and built the
hand. I believe it got him a full ride somewhere. Anyone know where Gene
Bissell is? Jocko
Fri 3/16
Jim Finch
Thursday, March 15, 2012 6:04 PM
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Speaking of computers, Don ? - he built the mechanical hand
from an old (60's era) computer his dad brought home from work (Honeywell or
something). Amazing.
Richard Bolander [rbolander86@hotmail.com]
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I apologize if this teacher was already mentioned. I'm not
as up tp speed with this computer stuff in my old age, but what about Wanke. I
think his first name was Joe. He was a speech teacher and also a camp Warren
counselor. Also, who was that teacher who taught calculus and was so much in
another world that we could hardly understand and follow him. I know he had a
computer in the closet in his room and also taught computer science? I think
his first name was Charlie
Bo
Bo
Richard Bolander [rbolander86@hotmail.com]
Thursday, March 15, 2012 5:25 PM
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I saw Garrity in about 1982. He was a salesman at I think
Walser Ford on Excelsior and 100. He sold me a new ford Tempo.
Chip Myers
That’s it. YOU ARE BLOCKED
Thu 3/15
David Schall
Back to the teachers – if you bring up Ward (Master) Bates,
then how can anyone forget his wife Jane Bates, our 6th and 7th grade spelling
teacher, who at least on occasion must have “spelled” the Master with her hand.
Gregory Bezat
Interestingly Emerson had both wrists "cut" from
repetitive stress injury. Curious how was his playing these days Chris? On Mar
15, 2012, at 2:24 PM, Christopher Meeks wrote: Ha! I, too, was at the ELP
concert where Mott the Hoople opened. I remember Kramer
Thu 3/15
Jim Crawford [jim@waldorfcrawford.com]
Thursday, March 15, 2012 3:33 PM
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Kramer, too.
Gregory Bezat [greg@bezatvideogroup.com]
Thursday, March 15, 2012 3:29 PM
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I was there as well and I thought it was Kramer on the stage
… Was it Wyman?
Jim Crawford [jim@waldorfcrawford.com]
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I was there. Yes—it really happened.
Now Playing: Trilogy – ELP
Craw
Mark G. Olive
Was running Lake Harriet yesterday, listening to Emerson
Lake & Palmer's "Trilogy", reminiscing about ELP concert @
Guthrie, Spring of sophomore year w/ Mezzenga & John Morowski('71), and, as
it turned out, Wyman, who leaped onto the stage to dance w/ the warm
Gould, James R. [goul6457@stthomas.edu]
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I know I was a first class nerd, but I liked Mr. Hodgekinson
- and now I look like that old fogey
Thu 3/15
Chris Dillon [Chris.Dillon@meyers.com]
Thursday, March 15, 2012 2:45 PM
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I think I am still scarred for life from being in Shogren's
math class! Dillon- either you know it or you don't! Could have peed in my
pants.
Nothing topped being there when Henry Niles came in to
Michaelick's class with shin pads under his trousers. Henry I believe was a
year ahead of us and probably still has a limp.
Chris Dillon [Chris.Dillon@meyers.com]
Thursday, March 15, 2012 2:37 PM
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Did I miss seeing Wattie? Mr. Watson, english teacher senior
year. Let's see, what word is unknown to 98% of the population? Johnson
O'Connor word builder.
Sent from my iPhone
Sent from my iPhone
Jim Crawford
Thursday, March 15, 2012 2:26 PM
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John Knutson alleye@bitstream.net
John King john@johnkingmusic.com
Big Whiskers is Moe
Now Playing: The Rise & Fall of Ziggy Stardust & The
Spiders From Mars –David Bowie
Craw
Andrew Rich
Tony Curtis/Janet Leigh? (didn't google it - honest) Lee
Mesna - nicely played! Or Mensa as Stratsuda misreported in the Torch (and
clearly, Mesna was not Mensa caliber) thought Jack Fecht was Mr PE.
Charlie White [charlie@bluemoonpackaging.com]
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Heinz “get those f______g posters off the walls in the study
hall” Otto.
Mr. (?) Haag
Robert Runkle
Randy Cleven – asst. track coach
Bob “Men of Iron” Close (also MC of annual Olympic Days)
Extra point trivia question.
In the Hollywood adaptation of Men of Iron – “The Black
Shield of Falworth” (1954 Universal Studios) what husband/wife actors played
the lead roles of Myles Falworth & Lady Anne of Mackworth?
Buck “OCD” Bethel – 5th grade – pretty sure he was the guy
with the worn out nail clippers
Ron Replogle (?) latin teacher
Betty “flutophone” (?) lower school music director
Lee “Mr Phy-Ed” Mesna
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think you're referring to Schall's surrogate father, Ward
"Master" Bates (think he just died last spring?) Though I doubt his
clippings measured up to those left by Bethel, amazing I got ANY math right
with that distraction going on.
Then there was John "Booby" Hatch - "shut the
door Seth - FROM THE OUTSIDE!")
Hey, just remembered John Howard - he was at Camp Warren
too. Hmm, should we be expecting another letter for possible testimony 40 years
later against him?
and what was up with the Lundholms? Harold, Bid/ Friedhof
(were they one and the same?) then Robert - did they ever look for work outside
of the Blake factory
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Watty
Who was 7th grade english? ... "the nail clipper"
Mrs. Davis - 3rd or 4th grade substitute
Chip Myers [cmyers@franklinpartnersinc.com]
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How do you guys remember all this stuff?
Andrew Rich
Thursday, March 15, 2012 1:11 PM
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Once again, sloppy work from MMMS - repeating Hunt and
Nelson from my list.
How could I forget Marc Clarke? And points for Kuehneman
(correct spelling and all - but I get the ultimate points for remembering his
Jr. Chapel Speech: Good morning? No Way!!)
OK, time to turn this over most obscure teacher contest:
not the usual (Meola, Glenn, Pollock) but the one-year (or
short-term) wonders: Buck Bethel, Buff Bradley, Ron Tracy, Don Pribble,
Shogren, Jim Stepnick
and those who SHOULD have been there no more than one year,
non-pedophile* category (Charles Anderson comes to mind)…
Other nominees?
* Bill Jacobs is clearly the Lifetime Achievement Winner in
the other category - Camp Warren, Blake School, Loring Park Police - a
predator's trifecta~
Thu 3/15
charles.tatsuda@usbank.com
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Mean Gene Kuehneman....Marc Clarke...Bill Hunt...Jim
Warden...Gregg Nelson...John Jefferson (who might be able to bring Jacobs) and
the never to be forgotten fancy footer Monis Berahas!
Sent by: Andrew Rich <andrew=wiredranch.com@sendgrid.info>
Sent by: Andrew Rich <andrew=wiredranch.com@sendgrid.info>
Chip Myers
What about me??!
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and Richard Tickle....
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Andrew Rich
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Who's Big Whiskers? Moe?
Fansler's still in Wayzata, can't remember his email
(terbium something).
Shandorf, Gysland, Hunt, Ablahat, Anderson, Fritz,
Dean/Gregg Nelson also come to mind.
not to mention, from the department of homeland obscurity:
Mike Ring, Bennett Parsons, John Giebink and of course the one, the only Robert
Crosby...
Gould, James R. [goul6457@stthomas.edu]
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I know John King became a professional musician.
Thu 3/15
Charlie White [charlie@bluemoonpackaging.com]
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Any thought about reaching out to those lost souls who fell
off the Class of ’72 journey along the way? Hillard(?)Parnell, Kirby Aslesen,
John Truax(?), Ken Reynolds, Henry Niles(wasn’t he in our classs?), Tim Owen
(previously mentioned), Jim Atkinson (I know a number of us have seen him in
the last 12 months), John King (I don’t remember if he graduated with us) etc….
And guys like Duke, and Kit who have gone into hiding since graduation.
Also remember was it Bill Garrity?
And of course we should invite our honorary homecoming queen
– Raquel Welch!
My draft # was 287—I’ve never forgotten it.
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 4:02 PM
Subject: RE: 40th Reunion Dates
Hey Craw, I agree, it's great dialogue going on. I'm playing
Ohio by Young. Brings back memories of being one of the first in our class to
be drafted for the Vietnam War. I don't know if any of you remember, I drew # 8
in the draft lottery. I still listen to Neil Young to this day.
Richard "Bo"
Richard "Bo"
Thu 3/15
Gould, James R. [goul6457@stthomas.edu]
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for all you polo players:
trial which is being televised live from Florida.
Billionaire John Goodman drove his Bentley drunk through a stop sign and killed a 21 year old college student.
http://www.wptv.com/generic/news/Goodman-Page-the-trial
The student did not die from impact but drowned because he was trapped in his car underwater. Goodman did not call 911 until at least an hour after the crash. He has recently adopted his 42 year old girlfriend as his daughter as a maneuver to protect his wealth.
His high priced atty Roy Black in his opening stated that Goodman's Bentley malfunctioned and that he was not drunk at the time of the crash. Black said that Goodman was so dazed and in pain from the crash that he went to a nearby "man cave" of a friend and consumed copious amounts of alcohol - which explained why his blood level 3 hours after the crash was at .16.
Experts have determined that his Bentley was going 63 MPH at the time of impact. Pretty quick acceleration from a stop sign at an intersection to the middle of the street (where he completely broadsided the student in the road with no stop sign)
He is facing 30 years and I think he should do a good portion of it. I cannot quite understand how a defense attorney can paint such a fantasy when I would be willing to bet my left arm - he "knows" different. An attorney cannot knowingly lie to the court.
Unlike the rest of my successful classmates - I still gotta go to class.
Jim Gould
trial which is being televised live from Florida.
Billionaire John Goodman drove his Bentley drunk through a stop sign and killed a 21 year old college student.
http://www.wptv.com/generic/news/Goodman-Page-the-trial
The student did not die from impact but drowned because he was trapped in his car underwater. Goodman did not call 911 until at least an hour after the crash. He has recently adopted his 42 year old girlfriend as his daughter as a maneuver to protect his wealth.
His high priced atty Roy Black in his opening stated that Goodman's Bentley malfunctioned and that he was not drunk at the time of the crash. Black said that Goodman was so dazed and in pain from the crash that he went to a nearby "man cave" of a friend and consumed copious amounts of alcohol - which explained why his blood level 3 hours after the crash was at .16.
Experts have determined that his Bentley was going 63 MPH at the time of impact. Pretty quick acceleration from a stop sign at an intersection to the middle of the street (where he completely broadsided the student in the road with no stop sign)
He is facing 30 years and I think he should do a good portion of it. I cannot quite understand how a defense attorney can paint such a fantasy when I would be willing to bet my left arm - he "knows" different. An attorney cannot knowingly lie to the court.
Unlike the rest of my successful classmates - I still gotta go to class.
Jim Gould
Greg Bezat [greg@bezatvideogroup.com]
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Boxing skills learned from Chub. I will never ever forget
that. Chub yelling at us to hit him! Hit me hard! I honestly thought he was
going to break in two. But as we know he was a rock.
In response to the message from hillzent@comcast.net, Wed
3/14
David Schall
Dude, you seriously need spell and grammar check – must have
written this from your phone? Good to hear from you and I ditto many of your
remarks – especially Wonson’s Board of Shame for the loser! Hope all is well
with you, Linda and the younger four and that
Thu 3/15
Gould, James R. [goul6457@stthomas.edu]
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That is Mike.
Bill's website can be found here.
http://prgap.org/people/william-gould/
Bill's website can be found here.
http://prgap.org/people/william-gould/
Gould, William A -FS [wgould@fs.fed.us]
Thursday, March 15, 2012 10:12 AM
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Ha!
That is untamed brother Mike – class of 76!
BG
Thu 3/15
In response to the message from Gould, William A -FS, Thu
3/15
Gould, William A -FS [wgould@fs.fed.us]
Thursday, March 15, 2012 10:09 AM
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Bill - happened across this candid of you in Metro Magazine
at the MayDay Parade here last summer. Glad to see that the Forestry hasn't
tamed that Gould spirit!
Chuck Tatsuda
From: "Gould, William A -FS" <wgould@fs.fed.us>
1974
Gregory Bezat [greg@bezatvideogroup.com]
Chuck Tatsuda
From: "Gould, William A -FS" <wgould@fs.fed.us>
1974
Gregory Bezat [greg@bezatvideogroup.com]
Thursday, March 15, 2012 10:08 AM
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I got draft number 4 I think in 1973 and then number 360 in
1974. In Bozeman, I remember borrowing a someones draft card to get into the
bars…I put a charcoal smudge on my cheek and got in. The card owner was
5'8" and weighed 160 lbs. But since I had the smudge, they let me in!
Playin over and over on my turntable Brubecks "Jazz in
Outer Space", 1962.
Anybody know anything about Tom Shandorf? Last I heard he
lives in Florence and teaches English...
On Mar 14, 2012, at 7:30 PM, Christopher Meeks wrote:
Richard, with drawing #8, did you take a physical? What
happened? My number was something like #221. For two semesters seven years ago,
I taught a class at CalArts called "Vietnam Through Literature,"
where I used Tim O'Brien's book, "The Things They Carried," Michael
Herr's "Dispatches," and other books to understand what happened in
the Vietnam War. In part, it helped me see what I missed (and I'm glad I did),
and my students grabbed the class because many of their father's went to
Vietnam, and none of the dads spoke about it, so the kids wanted to learn more
about their fathers.
Since Neil Young's been popular today, see Neil and Bruce
Springsteen together here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1luydhZED0
--Chris
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John D Curtin
For What It's Worth: I saw Jim Wagenknecht maybe 30-35 years
ago at a Bob Dylan and Grateful Dead concert at the Metrodome. The concert was
pretty bad and as I was walking to get a Pepsi (beer?) I saw a fellow walking
towards me with a joint in his mouth, one
Thursday, March 15, 2012 9:33 AM
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My draft number was #306 – which I found out about during
half time of a basketball game. I was so excited I think I scored 4 points in
the second half instead of my usual 2.
To fulfill my moral obligation to serve, I enlisted in the
Woodhill National Guard and unselfishly spent countless hours patrolling the
golf course perimeter, keeping an eye out for “Charlie”, with the desperate
hope for a
“confrontation” so I could utilize the boxing skills learned
from Chub.
Jim Finch
What year?
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Gould, William A -FS [wgould@fs.fed.us]
Thursday, March 15, 2012 7:58 AM
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I can’t believe you guys all keep in touch, that’s great! I
don’t know where anybody is from my class.
BG
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Thursday, March 15, 2012 6:54 AM
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Hey Jim
Great song!! I'd love to hear it with the music. Bring it the reunion.
Richard
Great song!! I'd love to hear it with the music. Bring it the reunion.
Richard
Richard Bolander
Hey Chris Thanks for the video. I went to Vassar my freshman
year and was sent to Albany New York for the physical that fall. I went through
the whole procedure (bend over and cough etc) as you're standing in line in
your underwear with a bunch of other 18
Thu 3/15
Richard Bolander [rbolander86@hotmail.com]
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Thursday, March 15, 2012 6:48 AM
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Hey Chris
Thanks for the video. I went to Vassar my freeshman year and was sent to Albany New York for the physical that fall. I went through the whole procedure (bend over and cough etc) as you're standing in line in your underwear with a bunch of other 18 yr old guys. It was just like the scene in the "Alice's Restaurant" movie, except I didn't ask to borow anyone's urine. After the physical, they seperated the guys going for the 4 Fs , of which I was going for. They brought us one at a time into a room and met with some officer who would look at the paper's we brought from our doctor ( I was loaded for bear). The first thing he asked me was "What does this keep you from doing now?" and I had to ask honestly "Nothing". I thought I was screwed. The next thing he said was "Your disqualified" I didn't ask questions and got the hell out of there and never looked back. And boy, did I celebrate that night!! So that's it in a nutshell. Once again, thanks for the youtube video. There's also some great clips of the original Buffalo Springfield (with Neil Young os course) performing "For What It's Worth" last year at their Reunion concert at Bridge school. Check it out.
Richard
Thanks for the video. I went to Vassar my freeshman year and was sent to Albany New York for the physical that fall. I went through the whole procedure (bend over and cough etc) as you're standing in line in your underwear with a bunch of other 18 yr old guys. It was just like the scene in the "Alice's Restaurant" movie, except I didn't ask to borow anyone's urine. After the physical, they seperated the guys going for the 4 Fs , of which I was going for. They brought us one at a time into a room and met with some officer who would look at the paper's we brought from our doctor ( I was loaded for bear). The first thing he asked me was "What does this keep you from doing now?" and I had to ask honestly "Nothing". I thought I was screwed. The next thing he said was "Your disqualified" I didn't ask questions and got the hell out of there and never looked back. And boy, did I celebrate that night!! So that's it in a nutshell. Once again, thanks for the youtube video. There's also some great clips of the original Buffalo Springfield (with Neil Young os course) performing "For What It's Worth" last year at their Reunion concert at Bridge school. Check it out.
Richard
Richard, with drawing #8, did you take a physical? What
happened? My number was something like #221. For two semesters seven years ago,
I taught a class at CalArts called "Vietnam Through Literature,"
where I used Tim O'Brien's book, "The Things They Carried," Michael
Herr's "Dispatches," and other books to understand what happened in
the Vietnam War. In part, it helped me see what I missed (and I'm glad I did),
and my students grabbed the class because many of their father's went to
Vietnam, and none of the dads spoke about it, so the kids wanted to learn more
about their fathers.
Since Neil Young's been popular today, see Neil and Bruce
Springsteen together here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1luydhZED0
--Chris
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Speaking of Jims
I found this on the web: (I could find nothing further)
James William Wagenknecht was born on November 8, 1953 and passed away on Wednesday, August 19, 2009.
James was a resident of Minneapolis, Minnesota.
I found this on the web: (I could find nothing further)
James William Wagenknecht was born on November 8, 1953 and passed away on Wednesday, August 19, 2009.
James was a resident of Minneapolis, Minnesota.
Thu 3/15
Gould, James R. [goul6457@stthomas.edu]
In response to the message from Jim Crawford, Wed 3/14
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Thursday, March 15, 2012 3:34 AM
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To All,
I wrote a short song tonight. I was lottery number 281 - Dec. 30th. My older brother was a Conscientious Objector. I have been around so many military persons, that I now feel I owe a debt and hope I still have time to pay. I certainly don't like violence or war and sincerely hope the US will get out of Afghanistan soon. I want to end a foreign policy of smoke and mirrors and feel that our country has gravitated too far in the direction of the "Ends Justify the Means".
Secret Torture Black Sites and Guantanamo are not the America of my youthful 7th grade Pledge of Allegiance. Chub would have been madder than a Hornet about 911 but I don't think he would stoop to tactics inspired by the Spanish Inquisition or Auschwitz.
Back to Sleep.
Jim G.
p.s. You guys must have felt surrounded by Jims - not a common name for kids any more.
Jim A
Jim F
Jim G
Jim H
Jim W
Jim W
Anyone know what happened to Tim Owen? He always used to punch me in the arm to get me riled up. I know he left in about 10th? I kept up with Bob Loeffler for a few years after HS - last I heard he was an attorney in Alaska.
I wrote a short song tonight. I was lottery number 281 - Dec. 30th. My older brother was a Conscientious Objector. I have been around so many military persons, that I now feel I owe a debt and hope I still have time to pay. I certainly don't like violence or war and sincerely hope the US will get out of Afghanistan soon. I want to end a foreign policy of smoke and mirrors and feel that our country has gravitated too far in the direction of the "Ends Justify the Means".
Secret Torture Black Sites and Guantanamo are not the America of my youthful 7th grade Pledge of Allegiance. Chub would have been madder than a Hornet about 911 but I don't think he would stoop to tactics inspired by the Spanish Inquisition or Auschwitz.
Back to Sleep.
Jim G.
p.s. You guys must have felt surrounded by Jims - not a common name for kids any more.
Jim A
Jim F
Jim G
Jim H
Jim W
Jim W
Anyone know what happened to Tim Owen? He always used to punch me in the arm to get me riled up. I know he left in about 10th? I kept up with Bob Loeffler for a few years after HS - last I heard he was an attorney in Alaska.
In response to the message from David Schall, Wed 3/14
hillzent@comcast.net
Hi Blake Graduates 1972, I got to say the amount of
discussion that this reunion date elicited is really amazing. I really learned
alot a bout you guys from your jokes, true stories, and other comments. Maybe
we should have a virtual class reunion and bump
Wed 3/14
Jim Crawford [jim@waldorfcrawford.com]
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Allman Bros At Fillmore East going into Heavy Rotation NOW!
Andrew Rich [andrew@wiredranch.com]
In response to the message from Jim Crawford, Wed 3/14
Wednesday, March 14, 2012 10:18 PM
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Harvest? If you're going down memory lane, put on Allman
Bros at Fillmore East, which was played incessantly in the Senior Room.
And speaking of which, you'll all be pleased to know that
the 1965 edition of Strat-O-Matic baseball is still intact, ready for Stratsuda
and me to resume the rivalry for your viewing enjoyment. So maybe have the
reunion during the all-star break in Cooperstown? Just a thought.
Wed 3/14
Chip Myers [cmyers@franklinpartnersinc.com]
Wednesday, March 14, 2012 8:54 PM
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Gosh, we have.
Wed 3/14
Jim Crawford [jim@waldorfcrawford.com]
Wednesday, March 14, 2012 6:19 PM
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My draft # was 287—I’ve never forgotten it.
Richard Bolander [rbolander86@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, March 14, 2012 6:02 PM
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Hey Craw, I agree, it's great dialogue going on. I'm playing
Ohio by Young. Brings back memories of being one of the first in our class to
be drafted for the Vietnam War. I don't know if any of you remember, I drew # 8
in the draft lottery. I still listen to Neil Young to this day.
Richard "Bo"
Richard "Bo"
Jim Crawford [jim@waldorfcrawford.com]
Wednesday, March 14, 2012 11:40 AM
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Ditto.
Kudos, too, to Schall, Tat, Finch, Chas etc. to start up this dialog.
It's really great to be part of this crew and cool to see the chat
developing.
Looking forward to seeing all.
Meanwhile:
Now Playing: "Harvest" --Neil Young
Craw
Kudos, too, to Schall, Tat, Finch, Chas etc. to start up this dialog.
It's really great to be part of this crew and cool to see the chat
developing.
Looking forward to seeing all.
Meanwhile:
Now Playing: "Harvest" --Neil Young
Craw
Wed 3/14
Murray Rice [Murray_Rice@picis.com]
Wednesday, March 14, 2012 10:28 AM
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Well said, you should run for office.
Murray Rice
Murray Rice
Todd.Macgregor
Just to quiet all of you contrarians and demonstrate my
flexibility,( no small feat at our age), I would more than happy to accommodate
either season, any location, and participate in whatever activities are
prescribed. Awaiting the event with anxious anticipation!
Wed 3/14
Wednesday, March 14, 2012 10:10 AM
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Just to quiet all of you contrarians and demonstrate my
flexibility,( no small feat at our age), I would more than happy to accommodate
either season, any location, and participate in whatever activities are
prescribed.
Awaiting the event with anxious anticipation!
Mac
Chip Myers
Mac is worried that September will be too chilly for his
kilt.
Wed 3/14
Rob White [RobWhite@VCICapital.com]
In response to the message from Gould, James R., Wed 3/14
Wednesday, March 14, 2012 9:49 AM
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Jim G. -
It sounds like you should not vote for the weekend of July 23 - 29, as you
need to be in Oshkosh, Wisconsin for www.AirVenture.org.
Like my younger and better-looking brother Chas White, I have no life and am
free both weekends.
Rob
It sounds like you should not vote for the weekend of July 23 - 29, as you
need to be in Oshkosh, Wisconsin for www.AirVenture.org.
Like my younger and better-looking brother Chas White, I have no life and am
free both weekends.
Rob
Wed 3/14
Gould, James R. [goul6457@stthomas.edu]
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In response to the message from Jim Finch, Tue 3/13
Wednesday, March 14, 2012 4:29 AM
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Drone info from http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/02/president-obama-last-week-signed.ars
President Obama last week signed the FAA Air Transportation Modernization and Safety Improvement Act of 2012. Tucked inside the legislation is a provision that could have far-reaching implications in the coming decade: widespread civilian use of unmanned aerial drones.
Until now, the use of unmanned drones has been tightly regulated by the Federal Aviation Administration. Use has mostly been restricted to government agencies, and applications for private use were considered on a case-by-case basis. As of last summer, the FAA had only approved about 100 applications<http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2011/08/05/when-businesses-can-use-drones/> from private parties to fly unmanned drones.
But that's about to change. According to the New York Times,<http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/18/technology/drones-with-an-eye-on-the-public-cleared-to-fly.html> the new legislation mandates that the FAA begin allowing the use of small drones (under 4.4 pounds) by law enforcement within 90 days. And the agency must overhaul its drone regulations by September 30, 2015, including allowing more widespread use of drones by private parties.
The number of potential uses for aerial drones is almost endless, ranging from the life-saving to the creepy. Drones will allow search-and-rescue personnel to more quickly locate disaster victims. The Times interviewed a photographer, Daniel Gárate, who used a drone to make fly-by videos of high-end real estate to help their owners sell them. He shut down his operation after the Los Angeles police warned him that he was violating federal regulations, but he will likely be able to resume his business in 2015.
Other uses of the drones are likely to prove controversial. Gárate says he was asked to use his drone to conduct paparazzi surveillance of Kim Kardashian's wedding. He said no, but others are likely to say yes if drone regulations are liberalized. Google and Microsoft have already added<http://mashable.com/2010/07/10/google-maps-45-degree-aerial/> high-resolution aerial photographs to their online maps, but their coverage is currently limited. Unmanned aerial photography will allow them to achieve much higher coverage at lower cost.
The American Civil Liberties Union has argued that law enforcement use of drones threatens Americans' privacy. A December report<https://www.aclu.org/files/assets/protectingprivacyfromaerialsurveillance.pdf> called for new regulations to ensure that drones are not abused.
President Obama last week signed the FAA Air Transportation Modernization and Safety Improvement Act of 2012. Tucked inside the legislation is a provision that could have far-reaching implications in the coming decade: widespread civilian use of unmanned aerial drones.
Until now, the use of unmanned drones has been tightly regulated by the Federal Aviation Administration. Use has mostly been restricted to government agencies, and applications for private use were considered on a case-by-case basis. As of last summer, the FAA had only approved about 100 applications<http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2011/08/05/when-businesses-can-use-drones/> from private parties to fly unmanned drones.
But that's about to change. According to the New York Times,<http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/18/technology/drones-with-an-eye-on-the-public-cleared-to-fly.html> the new legislation mandates that the FAA begin allowing the use of small drones (under 4.4 pounds) by law enforcement within 90 days. And the agency must overhaul its drone regulations by September 30, 2015, including allowing more widespread use of drones by private parties.
The number of potential uses for aerial drones is almost endless, ranging from the life-saving to the creepy. Drones will allow search-and-rescue personnel to more quickly locate disaster victims. The Times interviewed a photographer, Daniel Gárate, who used a drone to make fly-by videos of high-end real estate to help their owners sell them. He shut down his operation after the Los Angeles police warned him that he was violating federal regulations, but he will likely be able to resume his business in 2015.
Other uses of the drones are likely to prove controversial. Gárate says he was asked to use his drone to conduct paparazzi surveillance of Kim Kardashian's wedding. He said no, but others are likely to say yes if drone regulations are liberalized. Google and Microsoft have already added<http://mashable.com/2010/07/10/google-maps-45-degree-aerial/> high-resolution aerial photographs to their online maps, but their coverage is currently limited. Unmanned aerial photography will allow them to achieve much higher coverage at lower cost.
The American Civil Liberties Union has argued that law enforcement use of drones threatens Americans' privacy. A December report<https://www.aclu.org/files/assets/protectingprivacyfromaerialsurveillance.pdf> called for new regulations to ensure that drones are not abused.
Jim,
Very brave of you to talk about this to all of us. I, for one, am proud to
know someone who has the courage and eloquence to take on an issue like
this.
I wish you very well and hope the FAA gets their act together, at least in
your case.
Finally, I agree with your assessment of Jim Finch's own tribulations and
his courage and fortitude. When I think of my whiney ass self and some of
the things I complain about, when I should feel blessed/lucky, I have two
former classmates now I can look to for inspiration.
David Schall
Very brave of you to talk about this to all of us. I, for one, am proud to
know someone who has the courage and eloquence to take on an issue like
this.
I wish you very well and hope the FAA gets their act together, at least in
your case.
Finally, I agree with your assessment of Jim Finch's own tribulations and
his courage and fortitude. When I think of my whiney ass self and some of
the things I complain about, when I should feel blessed/lucky, I have two
former classmates now I can look to for inspiration.
David Schall
Gould, James R.
Jim Finch,
I was very impressed to see an article on the web about your airplane
piloting.
I learned to fly an ultralight and have about 250 hours on them (sold my
last one in 1997 so it has been a while). I would like to get a private
pilot's license, but the FAA has been giving me difficulty regarding my
medical. It was especially unfortunate for me because after several years
of not really knowing what I wanted to do in life, in 1986 I realized that I
had the desire and ability to learn to fly an airplane. Unfortunately I made
some very poor decisions in the years 1980-1986, which culminated in diving
headfirst off the Franklin Avenue Bridge on 6/6/85.
I earned my A&P mechanic's license in 1997 and worked as a mechanic for
NWA 1997-2002. I have a goal of building a kit plane with my son Joe. The
Zenair CH750 is what I have had my eye on. It would be nice to be able to
fly it when we finish, but I have a very uphill battle with the FAA in order
to receive a special issuance medical. Many of my fellow classmates have
probably heard rumors of my mental breakdown. Law School has forced me to
face my difficult years several times because of disclosure requirements for
the school application and the bar exam and I am finally reaching a stage
where I don't need to run from it and am able to talk about it.
It seems unfair that diagnoses of psychosis, bipolarism and suicide
attempt from 26 years ago could prevent me from piloting a small aircraft;
whereas a commercial pilot, with the lives of hundreds in his hands, can fly
intoxicated and after only 2 years of sobriety can get his license back. I
have not had any drugs or alcohol for 24.5 years now. I have not had
treatment or medication for mental illness since 1993 - and really only had
sporadic medication and treatment in the years 1986-1993.
There is one option for me, that of special issuance. I will need to
undergo very expensive testing and evaluations and still it will be totally
at the discretion of the FAA whether or not they will grant a special
issuance. This seems especially ironic after Randy Babbit, the head FAA
Administrator resigned last fall after he was arrested while driving drunk.
After I get through with school, May 12th, and pass the bar exam in July - I
plan on devoting some time to attacking this problem.
The FAA might have difficulty in getting past my voluminous pyschiatric
record from 1980-1986 and instead of looking at my many years of sobriety
and stability - only see me as some sort of freak; a ticking time bomb. I
have read several articles which suggest that mental illness is one area
that Americans still feel quite comfortable in discriminating against, even
though we have made great strides in combatting discrimination in the areas
of race, gender, and sexual orientation.
Of course, safety is important - and of course the general public does
not want to take chances just so one individual can enjoy a hobby. Modern
pilots have more stringent medical requirements than the President of the
United States. Isn't he responsible for quite a few lives too? There a a
gazillion ways a person could cause mayhem in this world without the use of
an aircraft - but the FAA can single out persons like myself and play on the
general public's fear of mental illness - and simply deny me the ability to
pilot. I have known I could be a safe pilot now for 24 years. The special
issuance program allows the FAA to more closely monitor pilots with medical
issues. I think I have really waited long enough.
As a read this letter over with my petty complaints, I am reminded of your
incredible trials and I want to tell you, Jim, what an inspiration you are
to me.
Thanks for listening and wish me luck,
Jim Gould
P.S. - look out - the Drones are coming!
Wed 3/14
Gould, James R.
I am resending my vote for September because I sent in the
earlier (spam?) email. So I will second Mark Olive's impressive use of exclamation
points. I actually have a commitment on the June weekend. I promised my wife
Barb that we would attend the 137th Minnesota
Wed 3/14
Gould, James R. [goul6457@stthomas.edu]
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In response to the message from Mark G. Olive, Tue 3/13
Wednesday, March 14, 2012 2:53 AM
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I am resending my vote for September because I sent in the
earlier (spam?) email. So I will second Mark Olive's impressive use of
exclamation points. I actually have a commitment on the June weekend. I
promised my wife Barb that we would attend the 137th Minnesota State Fire
Department Association Conference Alexandria, MN. June 14-16. And if that falls
through I am actually supposed to be studying for the Bar Exam June and July.
But I want to take issue with Todd Mac's assertion that June weather is better
than September. I think I might have a few drops of Indian Blood because I like
Indian Summer and I am pretty sure that weekend in September is going to be
warm, dry and sunny - whereas June 14-17 is scheduled for light snow.
Of course if Mac voted for June, just so he didn't have to put up with me... I can understand that.
Mark, did you get my earlier email about my Mentor at school, Ray Peterson?
Sincerely,
Jim Gould
p.s. - yes reading is about as physical as I get these days Jim F.
Of course if Mac voted for June, just so he didn't have to put up with me... I can understand that.
Mark, did you get my earlier email about my Mentor at school, Ray Peterson?
Sincerely,
Jim Gould
p.s. - yes reading is about as physical as I get these days Jim F.
Hal and Meg Williams
Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:41 PM
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Thanks David for taking the lead on this...now look what
you’ve started. Since MacGregor has uncharacteristically added his two cents
worth for the month of June due to weather concerns (he believes his hair is
“fuller” in the humidity of a Minnesota summer); I would have to balance that
with a vote for September as a MacContra and because June is a goner for me.
I also like Finch’s idea of a long-ball competition, but
suggest instead of the top of Aspen Mountain we hold that competition in The
Torch office circa ‘71-‘72.
Williams
In response to the message from charles.tatsuda@usbank.com,
Tue 3/13
Jim Finch
Thanks Tat. I am resending my email sent to the smaller list
plus others who mistakenly did the same (C. White, Bezot and Crawford) to get
everyone on the same page. I would vote for a private house if someone is
willing to do the work; September date but no
Tue 3/13
Greg Bezat
The Garage! Now you're talkin! Will the girls from Northrup
be invited? Sent from my iPhone
Tue 3/13
John D Curtin
I would vote for either. I can see if I can rent The Garage
for an after party. Jocko
P.S. Please add Scott Smiley at: scottsmiley@msn.com
Tue 3/13
Mark G. Olive [Mark.Olive@Knowyourrights.com]
Sept
28-30!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Tuesday, March 13, 2012 2:14 PM
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(OK, hoping this list is accurate and fairly complete - feel
free to reply all with your choice -- and for those who got my initial
response, I was mostly kidding about Vegas -- probably not an option until our
50th?? Thanks for getting the ball rolling on this Schall and Bryant! Tat)
Dear Blake Class of ’72,
As you who can still subtract know, this year is our 40th year since we graduated. I would like to arrange a get-together for any of us who can make it (with spouses/significant others, probably not kids). We have two weekends that are possibilities – the weekend of June 16 - 18 or the weekend of September 28 – 30. The June weekend (Saturday – Monday has the Greater Blake Open golf tourney/fund raiser on Monday, the 18th and September 28 – 30 is homecoming weekend and I think Bryant got us some ice time that weekend for a free skate/pick up sponge puck game. Both the GBO and the ice time are available regardless of whether we choose that weekend for our party (duh!).
If you could all vote (please hit “reply all”) on one or the other, that would help us pick one. The other part of the decision is do we have a party at one of our houses or, I can arrange to have the Blake Hopkins campus open to us – we could have dinner there (macaroni and cheese, fruit salad and apple crisp?) and wander the halls or be outside, weather permitting. I know we had a chuck wagon one year out there.
Finally, if I’ve missed anyone whose email address one of you knows, please send this to him and copy me so I can add him to the list.
Let everyone know what you are thinking (if you are thinking),
David Schall
Schall Executive Search
IDS Center
Suite 4604
80 South Eighth Street
Minneapolis, MN 55402
(612) 338-3119
Dear Blake Class of ’72,
As you who can still subtract know, this year is our 40th year since we graduated. I would like to arrange a get-together for any of us who can make it (with spouses/significant others, probably not kids). We have two weekends that are possibilities – the weekend of June 16 - 18 or the weekend of September 28 – 30. The June weekend (Saturday – Monday has the Greater Blake Open golf tourney/fund raiser on Monday, the 18th and September 28 – 30 is homecoming weekend and I think Bryant got us some ice time that weekend for a free skate/pick up sponge puck game. Both the GBO and the ice time are available regardless of whether we choose that weekend for our party (duh!).
If you could all vote (please hit “reply all”) on one or the other, that would help us pick one. The other part of the decision is do we have a party at one of our houses or, I can arrange to have the Blake Hopkins campus open to us – we could have dinner there (macaroni and cheese, fruit salad and apple crisp?) and wander the halls or be outside, weather permitting. I know we had a chuck wagon one year out there.
Finally, if I’ve missed anyone whose email address one of you knows, please send this to him and copy me so I can add him to the list.
Let everyone know what you are thinking (if you are thinking),
David Schall
Schall Executive Search
IDS Center
Suite 4604
80 South Eighth Street
Minneapolis, MN 55402
(612) 338-3119
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